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    <p>"Hell is paved with good intention."<br>
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    <p>GDPR came from the laudable intention of limiting the power of
      GAFAMs and other data brokers, inside our private lives.<br>
      <br>
      But the text maintains a confusion between personal data and
      private data. Some personal data is not and should not be private.
      Email could be one of them, if everyone used a web of trust, which
      would allow us to know more precisely who is the sender, and to
      fight more effectively against SPAM.<br>
      <br>
      (NB: In addition, the text annoys small organizations more than
      large groups which have the means to circumvent it, via
      internationalization and lobbying)<br>
      <br>
      I have a public email, and i would like to have a email service or
      client which may delete automatically unsigned messages, and give
      me the feature to order received email depending from a
      "proximity" regarding the WOT, or a "confidence" regarding my
      trustdb.<br>
      <br>
      About the keystore, I imagined 9 years ago that a key server
      receiving a certificate update, not signed by its owner, could
      send a message to the owner (by default 1 time per day), in order
      to ask it to validate, or not, the modifications, before
      synchronizing the updated certificate, signed by its owner, on
      other key servers.<br>
      <br>
      So I had to write a draft and start implementing a new MIME type
      for HTTP for these purposes, to upgrade HKP protocol :<br>
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    <p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/Open-UDC/open-udc/blob/master/docs/rfc/HTTP_OpenPGP_Authentication.draft.txt">https://github.com/Open-UDC/open-udc/blob/master/docs/rfc/HTTP_OpenPGP_Authentication.draft.txt</a></p>
    <p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/Open-UDC/thttpgpd">https://github.com/Open-UDC/thttpgpd</a><br>
    </p>
    <p>But unfortunately I was perhaps too shy to talk about these ideas
      on an international mailing list, and they received little echo in
      my French environment :<br>
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    <p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://linuxfr.org/users/jbar/journaux/thttpgpd-ou-comment-openudc-a-ressuscite-le-bon-vieux-thttpd">https://linuxfr.org/users/jbar/journaux/thttpgpd-ou-comment-openudc-a-ressuscite-le-bon-vieux-thttpd</a><br>
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      Today WKD / WKS seems to me a good compromise for the trilemma
      keystore, and probably the best way to get the last version of
      "first-party-attested" certificates, which fresh uid / sub-keys
      updates and revocations.<br>
      <br>
      But it's only today that I discovered your git repository
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://gitlab.com/openpgp-wg/rfc4880bis">https://gitlab.com/openpgp-wg/rfc4880bis</a> and your idea of
      ​​"first-party-attested third-party certifications" (1pa3pc).<br>
      <br>
      I therefore apologize if I do not add anything new or interesting
      to the debate today.</p>
    <p>----<br>
      Jean-Jacques B.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 28/06/2021 à 01:41, Jason Harris via
      Gnupg-devel a écrit :<br>
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      <div>There are still SKS servers running, but several are
        unsynchronized, including, apparently, pgp.mit.edu.  Of course,
        they have the same key import/poisoning problems already
        mentioned on these lists…</div>
      <div><br>
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      <div>Here are the hockeypuck servers I could find, all
        synchronizing properly and apparently exchanging data (minus the
        unwanted packets) with the SKS servers that are synchronized:</div>
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        <ul class="ul1" style="list-style-type: circle; caret-color:
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            font-size: 21.1px; line-height: normal;"><span class="s1"
              style="font-size: 21.05px;"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://keys.andreas-puls.de/pks/lookup?op=stats">http://keys.andreas-puls.de/pks/lookup?op=stats</a></span></li>
          <li class="li1" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal;
            font-size: 21.1px; line-height: normal;"><span class="s1"
              style="font-size: 21.05px;"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://keys2.andreas-puls.de/pks/lookup?op=stats">http://keys2.andreas-puls.de/pks/lookup?op=stats</a></span></li>
          <li class="li1" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal;
            font-size: 21.1px; line-height: normal;"><span class="s1"
              style="font-size: 21.05px;"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://keys3.andreas-puls.de/pks/lookup?op=stats">http://keys3.andreas-puls.de/pks/lookup?op=stats</a></span></li>
          <li class="li1" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal;
            font-size: 21.1px; line-height: normal;"><span class="s1"
              style="font-size: 21.05px;"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://pgp.cyberbits.eu/pks/lookup?op=stats">http://pgp.cyberbits.eu/pks/lookup?op=stats</a></span></li>
          <li class="li1" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal;
            font-size: 21.1px; line-height: normal;"><span class="s1"
              style="font-size: 21.05px;"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://pgp.re:11371/pks/lookup?op=stats">http://pgp.re:11371/pks/lookup?op=stats</a></span></li>
          <li class="li1" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal;
            font-size: 21.1px; line-height: normal;"><span class="s1"
              style="font-size: 21.05px;"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://pgpkeys.eu/pks/lookup?op=stats">https://pgpkeys.eu/pks/lookup?op=stats</a></span></li>
          <li class="li1" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal;
            font-size: 21.1px; line-height: normal;"><span class="s1"
              style="font-size: 21.05px;"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://keybath.trifence.ch/pks/lookup?op=stats">https://keybath.trifence.ch/pks/lookup?op=stats</a></span></li>
          <li class="li1" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal;
            font-size: 21.1px; line-height: normal;"><span class="s1"
              style="font-size: 21.05px;"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://keyserver.trifence.ch/pks/lookup?op=stats">https://keyserver.trifence.ch/pks/lookup?op=stats</a></span></li>
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      <div>HTH.  (Please excuse the HTML.)</div>
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      <div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPad</div>
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        <blockquote type="cite">On Jun 24, 2021, at 7:19 PM, deloptes
          via Gnupg-devel <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnupg-devel@gnupg.org"><gnupg-devel@gnupg.org></a> wrote:<br>
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            <div>Hi, we heard that <a href="http://sks-keyservers.net"
                moz-do-not-send="true">sks-keyservers.net</a> will be
              depreciated <br>
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            <div>so we were wondering what service we should use in the
              application default settings</div>
            <div>We I mean TDE devs</div>
            <div><br>
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            <div>where do we go from here?</div>
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            <div>thank you in advance</div>
            <div>BR<br>
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