[Q]signing an encrypting, integirty

CL Gilbert Lamont_Gilbert@RigidSoftware.com
Wed Jul 9 19:32:10 2003

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Lukasz Stelmach wrote:
| Greetings All!!!
| I have found an article in Dr.Dobb's Journal about <subj.>. There
| has been shown a problem of dependency between signed text and
| and encryption. Lets assume we have three parties Alice, Bob
| and Charlie (A,B,C)
| * A,B,C are their public keys
| * a,b,c are their private keys (for signing)
| * {msg}A means "msg encrypted for Alice"
| * {msg}b means "msg signed by Bob"
| Now, there is situation:"
| {{msg}a}B
| Alice sends, some secret data to Bob. Bob can decrypt message
| and crypt it for Charlie as if it has been sent by Alice:
| {{msg}a}C
| which in fact is not true. There is no way for charile to
| know that Bob has anything to do with the message.
| If Alice has first encrypted and then signed the message
| {{msg}B}a
| Bob can't do the same trick. But this is not fully secure either.
| Now Charlie if he knows what is in the message he can strip Alice's
| signature and give his own:
| {{msg}B}c
| and Bob may think Charlie is the author.
| There are several simple ways walk around these problems. Alice may
| write:
| {{To: Bob, msg}a}B
| and Bob cannot send msg to Charlie and pretend that he has nothing
| to do with taht message. The other case may be solved this way:
| {{msg, Wrote by Alice}B}a
| Now Bob knows taht msg should have been signed by Alice not by Charlie.
| In the article (i can't remever the issue now) mentioned above
| there were som other soulutions too. My [Q] is now:
| Are there any "automatic" ways in GnuPG (open PGP) to avoid
| such situations?
| By.
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I don't think this is a function of GNUPG as much as how you use it.  If
you want someone to know the message is from your, then you sign it.  If
you can not trust the end user, then whats the point?

What this article is hinting at is called DRM.

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Thank you,

CL Gilbert
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