passphrases: the police and subkeys scenario

Faramir faramir.cl at gmail.com
Tue Jun 17 06:02:45 CEST 2008


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Rick Valenzuela escribió:
> Robert J. Hansen wrote:
>> it's grossly inaccurate to say that an airport
>> is beyond the laws of the host country.
> 
> I said it's "viewed as." It's an interpretation and being taken
> advantage of as such. I might've tended toward hyperbole and implied an
> uncivilized Wild West of airports, but for some specific instances, yes,
> basic expected rights are sometimes no longer operable pre-entry.
> 
> For instance, in the U.S., if a non-citizen is being questioned about
> entry status, he or she is not entitled to have an attorney present. (A
> U.S. citizen is, for any questioning.) Yet, if a noncitizen is detained
> in the city, he can have a lawyer present for questioning by police.

  I don't have any idea how does it operate in my country, I mean, how
does it work at the international airport. Also, there are interpol
agents there, and I am not sure how do they treat jurisdiction. Anyway,
I still remember when a chilean passenger was required to put his
handbag with the other luggage (this was after sept 11, 2001), and he
said something like "ok, no problem, I still have my machine-gun in my
pocket" (a very stupid joke to do, in a time like that, but still it was
clearly a joke... there is no way to put a machine-gun inside a pocket).
And he spent several days arrested... So, IMHO, nothing that can happen
inside USA regarding "security" amazes me.

  Anyway, regarding encryption and legal issues, I think we should not
focus "only" in extreme situations, without forgetting too that there
are places where "weird" (or unpleasant) things can happen.
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