Two convicted in U.K. for refusal to decrypt data

the dragon ceprn at
Thu Aug 13 16:41:10 CEST 2009

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> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:25:25 -0400
> From: dkg at
> To: ceprn at
> CC: gnupg-users at
> Subject: Re: Two convicted in U.K. for refusal to decrypt data
> On 08/13/2009 08:40 AM, the dragon wrote:
> > And if you look at the cases reported, these are not system admins refusing 
> > to divulge data, or even regular people trying to protect their privacy -
> > they are child molestors and wanna-be terrorists.
> Some of them may molest children and some may want to be terrorists (is
> wanting to be a terrorist illegal in your jurisdiction?). Some of them
> may simply be accused of doing these things (or of other activities
> which you might find more or less offensive than molestation or
> terrorism-wanting). And perhaps they are accused incorrectly.
> It sounds like the innocent accused will still be at risk of conviction
> (for violating RIPA if not for their alleged crimes) if they choose to
> maintain personal and data privacy in the face of these accusations.
> > encrytion is about maintaining personal and data 
> > privacy; it's not about having a tool to break the law.
> It sounds like the UK has made laws that target users of encryption
> whether or not those users have actually broken other laws. So in that
> sense, encryption *is* about having a tool to break the law, at least in
> the UK :(
> --dkg

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