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Hauke Laging mailinglisten at
Fri Dec 13 21:05:59 CET 2013

Am Fr 13.12.2013, 15:37:59 schrieb Werner Koch:

> The majority of users are using a GUI and thus the command line version
> does not matter at all.

Strange argument IMHO. Would you say the same about Linux? 99% of the desktop 
users don't know that there is a shell / console layer thus it's not important 
whether Linux has a good shell?

I think in both cases the 1% are much more important than their tiny share 
implies because it is mostly the users who are very familiar with a software 
who care about spreading it.

On the other hand we should support the development of pure users to users 
with relevant knowledge. This development is supported by a better console 
tool. Thus I believe that it does make sense to think about it how

1) gpg can be made easier to use

2) gpg can help the users understand the situation better.

> Although people should know better, I am pretty
> sure that there are many scripts out which parse the human readable
> output.  Such a change would break them.

Maybe. But it is trivial to check whether gpg runs as part of a script, isn't 
it? It already does so today. I have forgotten where it is done but some 
output formatting is changed depending on whether the output is written to a 
tty or not.

And if someone writes a script with such tricks that the script environment 
cannot easily be detected and then even complains about that then my reaction 
would probably be non-verbal.

It might be easier to decide to have some changes if these are not planned for 
future versions of 1.4 or 2.0 but for 2.1 only. There have been output format 
changes from 1.4.x to 2.0.x, too.

And to avoid a situation wich such arguing in the future (i.e. 2.1.x) it might 
be a good idea to "enforce" avoiding the use of non-script output for scripts 
by making small changes (irrelevant to the human reader) in the output format 
in every version.

Crypto für alle:
OpenPGP: 7D82 FB9F D25A 2CE4 5241 6C37 BF4B 8EEF 1A57 1DF5
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