German ct magazine postulates death of pgp encryption

Kristian Fiskerstrand kristian.fiskerstrand at
Tue Mar 3 16:22:56 CET 2015

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On 03/03/2015 04:20 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote:
> On 03/03/2015 01:50 PM, Hans of Guardian wrote:
>> On Feb 27, 2015, at 1:11 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote:


>>> The standard PGP keyserver pool is a mess with racist spam,
>>> lost keys that will be there forever, etc.  The concept of
>>> email validation is very very common and proven in internet
>>> service providers.
> And anyone is free to set up a CA that performs this validation
> and signs the returned key.
>>> It is time for OpenPGP keyservers to join the rest of the 
>>> internet.
> They are already quite up to date, SKS 1.1.5+ (development master) 
> even supports the experimental Ed25519 draft used by GnuPG. What
> you are proposing here isn't about joining the rest of the
> internet, it is about subverting the security by introducing a
> false sense of security and even worse, that opens up well known
> attack vectors.
> By the way, an OpenPGP key is fully valid without any email address
> as part of any UID.

For completeness, going to include some of the template for my
response to delete key requests;

But your situation is a good example of why one should never trust
a key based on email address in UID alone, but need to verify
fingerprint, creation type, key algorithm etc with the perceived
owner and certify/sign the key.

If you google you'll find some more detailed explanations as to
why you can't delete a key from a keyserver.

Long story short, even if it was technically possible the social
protocol is missing. Speaking more generally, there might've been
two (or more) people sharing the same name, and email addresses
change over time, if the previous user deleted his email, it
wouldn't make the key any less valid that someone else take over
the email address.

This is why one should never trust email address alone, but always
verify keys through other means (mainly fpr, creation date, algo,
size). That several keys exists for a single address is, from a
cryptographical and security point of view irrelevant, as it is
only applicable as a potential issue if people don't follow proper
procedure for due dilligence.

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