From ueno at gnu.org  Fri Jul 10 04:05:45 2026
From: ueno at gnu.org (Daiki Ueno)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2026 11:05:45 +0900
Subject: [gnutls-help] PSA: GitLab notifications will no longer be forwarded
 to gnutls-devel mailing list
Message-ID: <87pl0vzjie.fsf-ueno@gnu.org>

Hello,

We have an email forwarding setup of GitLab activities to a read-only
gnutls-devel mailing list since July 2018[1].  These days, this setup is
becoming problematic, especially when a security sensitive issue is
initially filed in public and then marked as confidential, leaving the
issue still available on the mailing list archive.

Therefore, unless anyone objects, I plan to turn this feature off and
suggest people to subscribe to the GitLab project by themselves[2].

I have never been a fan of this email forwarding idea, for similar
reasons Andreas pointed in the second paragraph of [3], which was sadly
ignored at that time.

Footnotes:
[1]  https://lists.gnutls.org/pipermail/gnutls-devel/2018-July/008579.html

[2]  https://docs.gitlab.com/user/profile/notifications/#change-level-of-project-notifications

[3]  https://lists.gnutls.org/pipermail/gnutls-devel/2018-July/008578.html

Regards,
-- 
Daiki Ueno


From ueno at gnu.org  Sun Jul 19 03:57:41 2026
From: ueno at gnu.org (Daiki Ueno)
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2026 10:57:41 +0900
Subject: [gnutls-help] PSA: GitLab notifications will no longer be
 forwarded to gnutls-devel mailing list
In-Reply-To: <87pl0vzjie.fsf-ueno@gnu.org> (Daiki Ueno's message of "Fri, 10
 Jul 2026 11:05:45 +0900")
References: <87pl0vzjie.fsf-ueno@gnu.org>
Message-ID: <87fr1f91wq.fsf-ueno@gnu.org>

Hello,

Daiki Ueno <ueno at gnu.org> writes:

> We have an email forwarding setup of GitLab activities to a read-only
> gnutls-devel mailing list since July 2018[1].  These days, this setup is
> becoming problematic, especially when a security sensitive issue is
> initially filed in public and then marked as confidential, leaving the
> issue still available on the mailing list archive.
>
> Therefore, unless anyone objects, I plan to turn this feature off and
> suggest people to subscribe to the GitLab project by themselves[2].

As I haven't heard any objections, I disabled this feature now.

Regards,
-- 
Daiki Ueno


From ametzler at bebt.de  Sun Jul 19 11:21:52 2026
From: ametzler at bebt.de (Andreas Metzler)
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2026 11:21:52 +0200
Subject: [gnutls-help] PSA: GitLab notifications will no longer be
 forwarded to gnutls-devel mailing list
In-Reply-To: <87fr1f91wq.fsf-ueno@gnu.org>
References: <87pl0vzjie.fsf-ueno@gnu.org>
 <87fr1f91wq.fsf-ueno@gnu.org>
Message-ID: <alyXMLnSmqjtb2L4@argenau.bebt.de>

On 2026-07-19 Daiki Ueno <ueno at gnu.org> wrote:
> Daiki Ueno <ueno at gnu.org> writes:

> > We have an email forwarding setup of GitLab activities to a read-only
> > gnutls-devel mailing list since July 2018[1].  These days, this setup is
> > becoming problematic, especially when a security sensitive issue is
> > initially filed in public and then marked as confidential, leaving the
> > issue still available on the mailing list archive.
> >
> > Therefore, unless anyone objects, I plan to turn this feature off and
> > suggest people to subscribe to the GitLab project by themselves[2].

> As I haven't heard any objections, I disabled this feature now.

Hello,

I liked the list but could not fault your reasoning. ;-)

So AFAIUI gnutls-devel at lists.gnutls.org is now dead, isn't. - It already
was readonly and now does not get any gated mails anymore.

Could you update the information on https://www.gnutls.org/support.html
and https://lists.gnutls.org/mailman/listinfo/gnutls-devel to reflect
that?

TIA, cu Andreas


From ueno at gnu.org  Tue Jul 21 11:02:45 2026
From: ueno at gnu.org (Daiki Ueno)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2026 18:02:45 +0900
Subject: [gnutls-help] PSA: GitLab notifications will no longer be
 forwarded to gnutls-devel mailing list
In-Reply-To: <alyXMLnSmqjtb2L4@argenau.bebt.de> (Andreas Metzler's message of
 "Sun, 19 Jul 2026 11:21:52 +0200")
References: <87pl0vzjie.fsf-ueno@gnu.org> <87fr1f91wq.fsf-ueno@gnu.org>
 <alyXMLnSmqjtb2L4@argenau.bebt.de>
Message-ID: <87wluoogui.fsf-ueno@gnu.org>

Andreas Metzler <ametzler at bebt.de> writes:

> On 2026-07-19 Daiki Ueno <ueno at gnu.org> wrote:
>> Daiki Ueno <ueno at gnu.org> writes:
>
>> > We have an email forwarding setup of GitLab activities to a read-only
>> > gnutls-devel mailing list since July 2018[1].  These days, this setup is
>> > becoming problematic, especially when a security sensitive issue is
>> > initially filed in public and then marked as confidential, leaving the
>> > issue still available on the mailing list archive.
>> >
>> > Therefore, unless anyone objects, I plan to turn this feature off and
>> > suggest people to subscribe to the GitLab project by themselves[2].
>
>> As I haven't heard any objections, I disabled this feature now.
>
> I liked the list but could not fault your reasoning. ;-)

Oh, I didn't know that :-)

> So AFAIUI gnutls-devel at lists.gnutls.org is now dead, isn't. - It already
> was readonly and now does not get any gated mails anymore.

That's correct.

> Could you update the information on https://www.gnutls.org/support.html
> and https://lists.gnutls.org/mailman/listinfo/gnutls-devel to reflect
> that?

Done; thanks for spotting this.

Regards,
-- 
Daiki Ueno