Testing GPG EMail encryption

Robert J. Hansen rjh at sixdemonbag.org
Fri May 25 22:47:11 CEST 2012

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On 5/25/12 1:47 PM, david at gbenet.com wrote:
> For example opensuse - all versions tested:
> (1) When you open the address book in TB select an address right 
> mouse click you get an option to create a per-recipient rule for
> that person. (Openpgp/inigmail is installed for you to do this).
> With gpg2 installed this option flickers jumps and fades out.

I have an OpenSUSE 12.1 system here on my desktop.  I cannot recreate

> (2) With gpg1 - it is clear - no jumping -no fading no fuzziness - 
> you get other options - such a delete - which are not available
> when just pgp2 is installed. This same flickering and fuzzing
> occurs with Fedora-16 all GUIs 32/64 bit and you only have one menu
> option which is to create a rule - though it flickers on and off
> one does not know one's created a rule till you go an check it
> within the options of openpgp.

I have a Fedora 16 server in the closet.  I cannot recreate this.

> (4) But - and this is the big big big but - you  can not digitally 
> sign whilst encrypting - and worse when the person gets that
> e-mail they say "Why did you send me an e-mail that I can not
> open." These are real person to person facts with gpg2 installed on
> all the Linux distros I tested.

I cannot recreate this on either my Ubuntu 12.04LTS laptop, my OpenSUSE
desktop, or my Fedora 16 server.

> (5) Now I say that gpg2 does not work with the Linux distros I 
> tested. Not all Linux distros are the same they convert open
> source to proprietary branded Linux.

Them's fightin' words, "convert[ing] open source to proprietary."

> This is why I said and listed those Linux distros that gpg2 does
> not work with. Now I suggested that perhaps enigmail/openpgp was at
> fault - and got told to bugger off cos it was a gpg2 problem.

No one told you to do this.  Instead, you were told that if you were so
certain this was a GnuPG 2 problem that you should take it to
GnuPG-Users.  People also volunteered to help you discover the root of
your problem with GnuPG 2, but you did not take them up on it.

> Now some people's reaction was not helpful - reading in that I was 
> angry without reading the contents of my e-mail - these are ...

We try to keep this mailing list free of vulgarity.  I understand you're
frustrated and find these people (e.g., me) to be vexing, but many of us
would appreciate it if you would avoid vulgar language.

> (1) Because "Oh it works on my system so it must work on other 
> people's."

As opposed to, "because it doesn't work on my system it must not work,

> (2) "Bugger off we are not interested in how many Linux distros
> you tested it's not got anything to do with us."

Which is, you know, *true*.  If you're certain the problem is with GnuPG
2, then complaining about it on the Enigmail list isn't going to be very
productive.  The GnuPG developers are on this list, not that one.

> (1) Some heavily branded Linux distros do re-write all the open 
> source code to lock users in and deprive them of some functionality
> - Seahorse is a case in point

This does not seem to be true.  Which distros are forbidding you from
getting the source code for Seahorse?  If they are doing this then they
are violating the copyright license of the Seahorse code, and I'm
certain the Seahorse developers would take great umbrage at that.

> (2) Even when installing the open source for TB and Enigmail gpg2 
> does not work on Linux distros (I tested)

It does not work *for you*.

> (3) Some Linux distros (the one's I tested) do not support gpg2

It does not work *for you*.

> There is one commonality which stands out and that is gpg2.

The other commonality is you.  It's quite possible you're doing
something wrong.  And to repeat, we would be happy to try and help, but
so far your attitude towards help seems to have been one of angry

> (1) Do not Install any version of opensuse any version of Ubuntu
> any version of Fedora-16 and any version of Linux Mint. Why? The
> gpg2 that get's installed does not work.

My experience, and that of tens of thousands of other Fedora 16, Ubuntu
and Linux Mint users, is different.

> (2) All heavily branded Linux distros are no respecter's of open 
> source.

I need to see specific instances of their violating the copyright
license attached to the code, please.
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