Why the software is crap

david at gbenet.com david at gbenet.com
Fri Nov 14 18:16:40 CET 2014

On 14/11/14 12:41, Tristan Santore wrote:
> On 14/11/14 13:24, david at gbenet.com wrote:
>> On 14/11/14 11:55, Martin Behrendt wrote:
>>> Am 14.11.2014 um 12:41 schrieb david at gbenet.com:
>>>> Hello All,
>>>> I even tried exporting my private and public key from the command line and then tried
>>>> importing. The same error message as before. I have checked on the internet - most of the
>>>> suggestions are crap - the authors have never ever tried to do what they suggest others to
>>>> do. If they had done so then they would have known just how crappy their supposed
>>>> expertise was.
>>>> I have even looked through https://www.gnupg.org/faq/GnuPG-FAQ.html  and found this to be a
>>>> useless pile of crap also.
>>>> I am faced with two options:
>>>> (1) Create yet another set of keys
>>>> (2) Give up using gnupg after some 20 years
>>>> I think I will unsubscribe from this list and give up on gnupg as a pile of crap.
>>>> David
>>> I think unsubscribing is the best thing you can do. Because you probably
>>> successfully destroyed the good intension and motivation of anyone
>>> helping you, with the offending nonsense you wrote in your last mails.
>>> If you are angry just shut up and write again after you cooled yourself
>>> down. The problem is more likely with you because there are not many
>>> people reporting such problems.
>>> And I can tell from my own experience that it is not even a problem
>>> copying the content of the gnupg directory between windows and linux.
>>> Tried that successfully.
>>> Maybe you should read the FAQ again (and try to understand what is
>>> written). Maybe there is a difference between exporting the public part
>>> of a key and the private part.
>>> Anyway, enjoy your life.
>>> Martin
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>> Martin,
>> I have cooled. You can export your private key - you can export your public key. You can
>> import your private key you can import your public key. In 20 years I have always had the
>> same problem - the same error message and have each time created a new set of keys. I have
>> done this 4 times.
>> I notice that no one on this list - for all the talk of "oh I've done it" can offer no
>> practical information has to HOW. No one. No one. No one knows how to do this simple task.
>> In all my 20 years I have never found out how. Perhaps things are different under a Windows
>> O/S but on Linux there is NO SOLUTION.
>> Perhaps the only "solution" is to import ones private and public keys and lose all your
>> contacts - ie a brand new installation. But I repeat BUT no one has ever created a mirror
>> image of a .gnupg and had a fully 100 per cent working signing and encryption functionality.
>> No one. There are no real practical solutions written anywhere on the internet.
>> There is nothing of any value in  https://www.gnupg.org/faq/GnuPG-FAQ.html - there never was
>> in all the 20 years of reading it.
>> Sure you can moan criticise me for my getting frustrated - and you can all moan and cringe
>> You are offended? Why? It is an easy thing to do is it not to moan about what and how people
>> express themselves - yet you completely ignore the real issue. You ignore is because you can
>> offer no real meaningful solution. As I have said no one has ever successfully transferred
>> their public and private keys between machines and got them to successfully work. That's a
>> real fact. And no one on this list as any practical solutions that work in the real world.
>> That's a fact. The fact is no one on this list has ever done it with 100 per cent success.
>> That's a fact. There is no practical advice on the internet. That's a fact.
>> David
> David,
> I am pretty sure I have seen advice on how to backup and restore your keys, if not on this
> list, in the countless smartcard how to.
> I must admit I have not followed previous threads from you, but you must admit and be fair,
> that generally most people here are friendly and supportive. But I have seen the topic come
> up a few times, so maybe this is a security versus usability issue ? But again, I have not
> followed exactly what your problem is. Just wanted to point out that most people are
> reasonably helpful and friendly. Labelling gnupg as crap is, not exactly a fair assessment I
> think, and falls within the lines of labelling selinux crap, because people do not
> understand it/are confused by what is going on.
> Anyway. I hope you work it out in the end and I am sure, somebody will be willing yo nudge
> you in the right direction.
> Regards,
> Tristan
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