axolotl, OMEMO vs OpenPGP

Bernhard Reiter bernhard at
Mon Mar 21 16:33:34 CET 2016

Hi Friends of GnuPG,

right now I am thinking about the properties and use cases
for OpenPGP compared to axolotl [1] and OMEMO [2].

The advertisment page for Conversation's OMEMO support [3]
claims that it is superior to OpenPGP:

| OMEMO not only gives you a better encryption features than OpenPGP and OTR 
| but is also much easier to setup.  

And I wonder in which situations this is true.
OMEMO says it does the trick of being "forward secret" and 
offline capable. Is this even possible while being end-to-end, 
e.g. not trusting a service provider?

If I am offline I could not create ephemeral session keys
or does this depend on previously exchanged keys?

Any thoughts?
Does somebody has pointer to in depth analysis?


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