Why OpenPGP is not wanted - stupid is in vogue right now

Jan Eden net at janeden.net
Mon Jun 10 11:30:54 CEST 2013

Well... most people in 1940 were not capable of cracking the Enigma or
even aware of encryption technology.  In fact, most human beings are
"stupid" in that they do not seek to understand the inner workings of
systems around them.

This is simply a pragmatic approach: As long as something works as
expected, it will not be questioned. This is true for technical,
political and economic systems.

Media coverage of Prism or Facebook's, Google's etc. data handling will
not increase demand for encryption significantly unless many people are
affected directly (i.e. questioned by the FBI regarding some message
they sent).

On the other hand, ordinary people have adapted at remarkable speed to a
society which is much more complex and intellectualy demanding than 200
years ago. I would not underestimate the potential of the homo sapiens.

Kind regards,
Jan Eden

On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 08:46:35AM +0000, Henry Hertz Hobbit wrote:
> My personal observations agrees with Rob Hansen's studies 100%.
> Even when required to use encryption people hate doing it and
> their concept is entirely focused on the ciphering with them
> thinking that people who use encryption are trying to hide
> something. They don't even begin to understand that signing is
> also a part of encryption. IOW, there is also an ignorance
> factor.  Nobody but me uses my signatures on the stuff I
> deliver.  It isn't because my keys aren't part of the WOT.  It
> is because for what ever reason they want to complain like mad
> about Prism but then go to Facebook and broadcast their personal
> lives to the entire world.  Why?  I would like to say I don't
> know why and that it could be used for a doctoral dissertation
> but I am beginning to suspect the doctoral candidates in
> Sociology and Psychology will be similarly nuts any more.  For
> those few who use my stuff they don't even use the signatures to
> verify that things are okay.. Dumb? Certainly.  But stupid is
> in vogue right now and I don't know why.  The Mayan Haab
> (365 days per cycle)  and Tz'olkin (260 days per cycle)
> calendars both go backwards and forwards forever but nobody
> wants to know that these calendars really didn't come to an
> end on 21 Decembre 2012 and that was just one of the times
> that the first days align.  It also happens every 52 Haab
> cycles (years) and 73 Tz'olkin periods.  Don't try to sit down
> and explain it to them either.  They go glassy eyed and make
> sure they don't understand that (365 * 52) = (260 * 73) and
> make sure they don't understand why even when you show the
> reduction that is lowest number you can get in the
> multiplication where they are equal.  They want to say that
> it is completely impossible to understand and they want to
> believe what ever lies are told on the History II channel and
> elsewhere.  They get away with it because everybody else is
> doing the same thing. Why?  BEING STUPID IS IN FASHION RIGHT
> NOW!
> If they had complained that my keys were not part of the WOT, my
> keys would have been part of the WOT in a hurry.  That was why I
> added my legal name as a comment.  I anticipated somebody would
> ask me to become part of the WOT.  Nobody has asked because less
> than 1/10 of 1% of people are using encryption except when they
> don't know that they are using it (443).
> What is wrong with the GUI provided with GPG4WIN?  I really don't
> want a GUI on Linux since I do most things in a terminal and BASH
> anyway.  My only complaint with GPG4WIN is that checking the
> signature should come first but that is because that is what I
> use it for.  I verify that my own downloads have not been tampered
> with.  Hey, the web-server isn't under my control.  I can no longer
> send email on the POP email account that goes with that web server
> any more either.  Yahoo's SMTP server stopped accepting my email
> from Thunderbird just two days ago.  Unfortunately, POP still
> pulls down 100 or so messages from PeskySpammer every day.  That
> does not instill confidence.  But I can still mail fine here using
> OpenPGP on 1and1 with no problems.  So it is not my setup which has
> not changed that is causing the problems. Business mail at Yahoo is
> either broken or the NSA / FBI retaliated for my comment at WaPo.
> I pick broken.  Why retaliate when even some of them will agree with
> my comments at WaPo? My snail mail delivered letter to Yahoo will be
> my last chance at getting it working again.  My hope is extremely
> low.
> Until stupid falls out of vogue, encryption just isn't going to
> be used.  If the History II channel and my downstairs neighbor
> with Planet X (Nibiru) are any indication we will need a
> completely new generation for that to happen.  This generation
> is so stupid with their iPhones and iPads and Galaxy Samsungs
> that I am beginning to wonder how we got here.  It isn't just
> the young doing it either.  Many older people have been similarly
> afflicted.  I think I will watch the programs on the D-Day veterans
> so I can get out of this time warp factor we are in right now for
> a while. Those people back then weren't stupid.  They cracked the
> Enigma, the Lorenz, and most of the Japanese codes as well.  I
> should have lived my life back then with my half-sister Susie and
> helped in the cracking.  Now?  The emperor has no clothes and
> almost nobody wants to use encryption - ANY KIND OF ENCRYPTION!
> Me?  My financial data and passwords are enciphered.  I don't
> make any apologies either.  There are too many hackers that
> want to steal that stuff.  I strongly avoid using software
> that isn't signed unless I created it either.  The people
> that aren't doing it?  THEY ARE PROUD ABOUT BEING STUPID!
> The reason Microsoft bundled Windows Defender and have it
> on by default is because well over 50% of the people weren't
> using an AV product on Windows.  Unfortunately, Windows
> Defender is removing all blocked entries including even
> Facebook and bad hosts from the hosts file now.  Again,
> stupid is in fasion even at Microsoft when they attempt
> to remedy a problem.  Windows Defender may have removed
> the only thing that would keep that problem away from
> that person's computer.  Will the Microsoft programmers
> understand that?  NO!  STUPID IS IN VOGUE RIGHT NOW!
> Mucking around with a new GUI for GnuPG will not change
> these factors.  The new GUI design needs to be driven by
> what the people want.  Right now they don't want
> encryption.  Encryption has become a dirty word in their
> diseased minds.

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