It's 2014. Are we there yet?

Kapil Aggarwal kappu at hotmail.com
Fri Apr 11 17:56:32 CEST 2014


What if you used multiple email addresses between two parties and at random
picked one to communicate?

Sure there will be a copy on the ISPs servers, but it'll be encrypted as
such and the email addresses can be changed on a frequent/infrequent basis.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gnupg-users [mailto:gnupg-users-bounces at gnupg.org] On Behalf Of
Charles Spitzer
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 11:32 AM
To: dan at geer.org; Sam Kuper
Cc: gnupg-users mailing list
Subject: RE: It's 2014. Are we there yet?

Except when your ISP is silently subpoenaed and they satisfy it without
notifying you. There's no telling what the ISP has stashed away without your
knowledge. 

I have had my gmail email subpoenaed, but Google notified me when they
received it that they would supply the requested data on a specific date
unless I filed in a CA court reasons why they should not do so.

Regards,
Charlie

-----Original Message-----
From: Gnupg-users [mailto:gnupg-users-bounces at gnupg.org] On Behalf Of
dan at geer.org
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 7:54 PM
To: Sam Kuper
Cc: gnupg-users mailing list
Subject: Re: It's 2014. Are we there yet?


 > One possible answer: https://www.mailpile.is/faq/

     * Where does Mailpile store my mail?
       With Mailpile, your e-mail is downloaded from the Internet
       (via an email server POP3 / IMAP), and stored locally on the
       computer where Mailpile is running.

     * Then how do I access it when my computer is turned off?
       You don't!


Exactly so.

Putting aside, for the moment, outright attacks, the individual or the
enterprise that outsources its e-mail to a third party thereby creates by
itself and for itself the risk of silent subpoenas delivered to their
outsourcer.  If, instead, the individual or the enterprise insources its
e-mail then at the very least it knows when its data assets are being sought
because the subpoena comes to them.  Maybe insourcing your e-mail is too
much work, but need I remind anyone that plaintext e-mail cannot be
web-bugged, so why would anyone ever render HTML e-mail at all?

Apologies,

--dan


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