Can we show in the main page...

[Noel D. Torres Taño]

Dov Margulis wrote:
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gpgweb-devel-admin@gnupg.org
> > [mailto:gpgweb-devel-admin@gnupg.org]On Behalf Of Pauliuc George
> > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 4:25 PM
> > To: gpgweb-devel@gnupg.org
> > Subject: Re: Can we show in the main page...
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 17:18:58 +0200 "Dov Margulis"
> > <graf@zahav.net.il> wrote:
> > > What you did is IMMORAL with a capital I !!!
> > > Gnu and Gnupg are not your personal home pages.
> > > You ___CAN'T___ just put what you want on them !!!
> >
> > I remember lots of sites publishing banners about September
> > 11, although that was something for the various NGOs.  I
> > think there should be a banner against the Israeli invasion
> > in the territories they don't control.  Besides, in both
> > cases we're talking about invasion wars.
> 
> I started by making a really (I mean really long - 40 full lines) reply.
> The reply I had written was very aggressive.
> Although I think you should be put in your place, I won't, I'll just sa=
y
> that I think that you are such an extreme redneck ignoramus that you sh=
ould
> be ignored.
> For the record I'll just say that:
> First, Israel _didn't_ invade the Palestinian territories !!!
> Second, any connection you find between what happened on September 11th=
 and
> today's events is pretty LAME !
> 
> IMHO, gnupg is _not_ the place for this kind of discussion.
> However some of you think differently and that's ok.
> 
> Werner,
> I urge you again, please remove the banner from gnupg.org since you ins=
ult
> many Linux+Gnupg users worldwide !!!
> 
> Dov.
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Dear Dov:

I said you twice that I'm not antisemite nor anti-israelian nor anything
that way, but now I must answer you because you're simply lying.

When the State of Israel was created by UN, there was an agreement: the
english Palestina territory would be divided in six regions, three of
them to be the State of Israel and the other three for the palestinians.

During several wars, the first of them started by the arab countries,
Israel invaded all the palestinian territories, as well as Sinai and
Golan highs.

Until today, there are Israel troops on the territories given by the UN
to the palestinians in the Partition.

And I remember you that you were who first treated the Israel case here
in the list, talking about SCUDS.

You say Werner is insulting "many Linux+Gnupg users worldwide". The only
insulted one here is the UN, insulted by the US. This war is illegal.
I'm sure the banner wouldn't be there if this war were approved by UN's
Security Council, like 1991 war was.

The Free Software movement, including not only Linux and GnuPG (and I
remember you that GnuPG is NOT a Linux product since it runs on a lot of
platforms) is not simply a software movement. It's an ethical movement
from its very start by RMS at MIT complaining about a printer driver. So
we CAN'T be quiet about such an illegal monstruosity like this war.

YOU can not force us all to follow YOUR ideas about this war and its
meaning.

And talking about morality, which you invoked to force Werner to retire
the banner, this war is also immoral, since it's conducted against UN
Chart, against Irak people, against worldwide public opinion; since it's
simply an invasion war in seek for the iraqi oil, since it's a vengeance
for "daddy"'s failure, since the reconstruction is reserved for american
enterprises only (including Cheney's enterprises), since million dollars
contracts for reconstruction are assigned to such enterprises even
without having the control of the thing to reconstruct; since there is
no liberation for kurdish people from Saddam since they are being
invaded by turquish troops.

You are NO ONE here to talk about the morality of this war (or the
banner).

And, even if you think I'm lying, I want to be your friend. But maybe
you can't have friends if their ideas are so different from yours.

Noel David Torres Taño, a.k.a. Envite
GnuPG web pages translator